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Although we cannot know the day nor the hour of His second coming, we can know and should realize that it is to be a pre-Millennial, and not a post-Millennial coming. That is, He is coming before and not after the 1,000 years reign of Christ on earth, Rev. 20:1-7.
The theory of post-Millennialism is dangerous because it would have us substitute man and his works for the work of God. The theory is that man ushers in the Millennium through his own efforts, and secures his own happiness without the grace of God. This school of interpreters believes that the organized church is to prosper and extend its scope until the whole world is converted, thus bringing in the Millennium, when in reality, the church is less near the accomplishment of this than in the time of the apostles.
It further teaches that Christ could not, or would not come back to earth while the world is sinful and that, when it is converted, men will invite Christ back to the world to reign. This certainly is not the teaching of Scripture. The purpose of this dispensation is not the conversion of the world, for all will not believe. It is the calling out of a people to serve as kings and priests with Christ during the Millennium and forever, Rev. 1:5, 6; 5:9, 10; 20:4; 22:5. The above passages under point 1 certainly do not harmonize with the idea of a converted world or picture such at Christ’s coming. Revelation Expounded.
Please view this link: http://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1552-when-was-the-book-of-revelation-written
It’s more important to be right with the Lord than right on every point….but being lead about by every wind and doctrine is also unacceptable. Here is a dating of the book of Revelations which is most widely excepted by scholars and the Early Church.
AUTHOR AND DATE
Four times the author identifies himself as John (1:1, 4, 9; 22:8). Early tradition unanimously identified him as John the apostle, author of the fourth gospel and three epistles. For example, important second century witnesses to the Apostle John’s authorship include Justin Martyr, Irenaeus, Clement of Alexandria, and Tertullian. Many of the book’s original readers were still alive during the lifetimes of Justin Martyr and Irenaeus—both of whom held to apostolic authorship.
There are differences in style between Revelation and John’s other writings, but they are insignificant and do not preclude one man from writing both. In fact, there are some striking parallels between Revelation and John’s other works. Only John’s gospel and Revelation refer to Jesus Christ as the Word (19:13; Jn 1:1). Revelation (1:7) and John’s gospel (19:37) translate Zec 12:10 differently from the Septuagint, but in agreement with each other. Only Revelation and the Gospel of John describe Jesus as the Lamb (5:6, 8; Jn 1:29); both describe Jesus as a witness (cf. 1:5; Jn 5:31, 32).
Revelation was written in the last decade of the first century (ca. a.d. 94–96), near the end of Emperor Domitian’s reign (a.d. 81–96). Although some date it during Nero’s reign (a.d. 54–68), their arguments are unconvincing and conflict with the view of the early church. Writing in the second century, Irenaeus declared that Revelation had been written toward the end of Domitian’s reign. Later writers, such as Clement of Alexandria, Origen, Victorinus (who wrote one of the earliest commentaries on Revelation), Eusebius, and Jerome affirm the Domitian date.
The spiritual decline of the 7 churches (chaps. 2, 3) also argues for the later date. Those churches were strong and spiritually healthy in the mid-60s, when Paul last ministered in Asia Minor. The brief time between Paul’s ministry there and the end of Nero’s reign was too short for such a decline to have occurred. The longer time gap also explains the rise of the heretical sect known as the Nicolaitans (2:6, 15), who are not mentioned in Paul’s letters, not even to one or more of these same churches (Ephesians). Finally, dating Revelation during Nero’s reign does not allow time for John’s ministry in Asia Minor to reach the point at which the authorities would have felt the need to exile him.
MacArthur, John: The MacArthur Study Bible : New American Standard Bible. Nashville : Thomas Nelson Publishers, 2006
So if a Peterist or A-millenniumist tells you none of this matters and Jesus will come when He comes then they can lead you down any false doctrine trail. But the Bible and Jesus give us a specific road map and things to look for. Look to the Bible…Revelations and the End Time Prophecies are either being Fulfilled or yet to be Fulfilled.
17:9 seven mountains. The Gr. word is often used of hills (Mt 5:1; 15:29; Jn 6:15; 8:1). Many commentators interpret this expression to mean Rome, which sits on 7 hills. It is true that the final worldwide system of false religion includes, but is not necessarily limited to, Rome; but specifically, the 7 mountains in context likely symbolize the 7 kingdoms and their kings of v. 10.
17:10 seven kings. Representatives of the 7 great world empires (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome, and that of the Antichrist). Cf. Daniel’s image in Da 2:37–45. five have fallen, one is, the other. When John wrote, the Egyptian, Assyrian, Babylonian, Medo-Persian and Greek empires had gone out of existence; Rome still existed; and the Antichrist’s empire had not yet come. When it does, it will be brief (12:12; 13:5) and he will end in perdition (v. 11; see note on v. .
AC’s 7th Kingdom..some say the Ottoman Empire could have been the seventh Kingdom or head that was wounded makes a lot of sense especially with what is happening in the Mideast right now. But still the prophecy charts would have to flow Biblically but very interesting. The Bible talks about this Kingdom continuing a “short” time but the Ottoman Empire was quite long or John was viewing from a didtance and it seemed short? There is also Communism. Which fits real well and in fact the fit together until the midst of the week.
17:11 was and is not … an eighth. The Antichrist’s kingdom is said to be both the seventh and eighth kingdoms because of his supposed demise and resurrection. He is the seventh king before and the eighth king after his “resurrection” when he destroys the harlot’s religious empire and demands exclusive worship of himself (v. 16).
17:12 ten kings. See notes on 12:3; 13:1 (cf. Da 2:41, 42). These kings are sub-rulers under the Antichrist, whose empire will apparently be divided into 10 administrative districts. not yet received a kingdom. Thus, the kings cannot be identified with any historical figures. one hour. Symbolic of the brief 3½ year period of time (cf. 11:2, 3; 12:6, 12, 14; 13:5; 18:10, 17, 19).
Parts from: MacArthur, John: The MacArthur Study Bible :
Re 17:9-12 …….I don’t really disagree with any of this commentary but a lot more could be added…..this point is good…”These kings are sub-rulers under the Antichrist, whose empire will apparently be divided into 10 administrative districts.These kings are sub-rulers under the Antichrist, whose empire will apparently be divided into 10 administrative districts.” This seems more plausible because you don’t really destroy America for example w/o Britain, Canada and Australia. I’m just using those countries as an example. This type of view makes things a little more World Wide. Sorry this is to long,,, The Revised Rome view keeps in all in the Mideast and former Roman Empire.
More thoughts on the Kings:
“15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) ” the “abomination of desolation” may be a computerized image unto the Beast. And that’s where the no man can buy or sell comes in etc. The world is fast moving to a cashless digitized economy…..and the AC and his one world government will control that. It could be by finger prints or retinal scan……
16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: 17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name. 18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six. Rev 13:16-18 (KJV)
I believe computers are going to have a big part. This would be in the midst of the week or later but the idea is……”12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast. 13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast. Rev 17:12-13 (KJV)” “shall give their power and strength unto the beast.” could very easily be their launch codes for their weapons…..
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled. Rev 17:16-18 (KJV)
Just some thoughts.
This is probably God’s clearest explanation of the End Time Events that has ever been written. We get Familiar with this passage because we have heard it so often. Please put your Mind in Neutral and just read this with an Open Mind because Everything Jesus said here is going to happen. Earthquakes and weather changes are happening, the fear of War is Everywhere……” and there shall be famines, and pestilences” which will probably start happening in the form of Plagues etc. Jesus is our protection. Psalm 91 and many others. He Will Keep us or take us Home during these Trying Times Ahead.
3 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many. 6 And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. 7 For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places. 8 All these are the beginning of sorrows.
9 Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name’s sake. 10 And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another. 11 And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many. 12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold. 13 But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. 15 When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) 16 Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains: 17 Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house: 18 Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes. 19 And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days! 20 But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day: 21 For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened.
23 Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not. 24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. 25 Behold, I have told you before. 26 Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
27 For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 28 For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together. 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other. Matt 24:3-31 (KJV) Sorry so long….